Saturday, 28 January 2012

Real life versus Spiritual life ??????

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by Chris Welch on Wednesday, 25 January 2012 at 12:07
Remember the "too heavenly minded to be of any spiritual use" phrase?
Then we learned Christ Life is Life.
There is ONLY ONE life in the universe.

So what's going on out there in real terms?
Why is the "appearance" that spiritual life and real life are different?Daniel Yordy, Rich Novek, Fred Pruitt,Ole Henrik Skjelstad,Brian Coatney,myself and many many others you know run teaching blogs. I find it incredible that over a 1000 have not so far got rid of me on Facebook. Because the truth is,so called real life, the bill paying life, the financial remuneration side of life, with boards and trusts, and pyramids of power have in REAL terms rejected every single one of us , some for as many as 30 years or more. Yet we would declare that we are preaching the real thing. LIFE.   We might not have every bit of it in articulable form. We believe we have received the whole thing in the Person of Jesus. But as year follows year He keeps peeling off onion layers, and we "see" a completely new bit we never even imagined before, let alone "saw close-up".  In general, Jesus keeps wrecking our theology. But one thing is absoluteley clear: as trustworthy as we feel our revelation is, absolutely no system out there thinks likewise about us. So, without the added comfort of being nicely tithed to, we've had to believe for decades that this LIFE will carry us through financially. And this seems to be how the Melchizedek Order works.

So this tells us immediately "real life", a life sewn up in different forms of pyramids of supply, is somehow different from the LIFE that is central to the Universe.Jesus had no trustee board, or mission organisation that existed apart from Him after He died. Tellingly, any infrastructure that might have existed, went back to their fishing nets straight after his death.  Jesus effectively scuppered their return to "real life", by appearing in resurrection form. It kind of messed up their "real life " from thereon in. Except that "real life" is not the same as LIFE.Life, the Life that sustains the whole universe with His Word of Power, walks right into death and out the otherside, appearing coolly,normally and unflustered, then mistaken in the total non-hype of it all, for a gardner.

Which , the more you think about it, is even more cool still. LIFE, the real stuff....is Soooooo  normal....it's cool.I suppose, Hollywood or Clint Eastwood would have had Jesus coming silently out of the grave, with a cowboy hat and a brim covering his eyes slightly, leaning nonchalantly against the very very heavy rock, now pushed aside, with a Peter Stuvesant cigarette flicked lightly with one finger. Perhaps Jesus missed a trick there.

Or not.

Let's look at Jesus financial system.
He just brought the Word, and believed the Father to supply the necessary to keep every one fed and clothed. -And I guess, all the disciples' wives and kids fed and clothed too.
Many females in high places were donating pretty heavily. But there was no system. There was no pyramid that Jesus had bought into.

He preached about flowers. And He preached about birds of the air. Does this seem stupid?
A clue came when the Israelites demand a King, to be like other nations. God the Father, who could have gone ballistic, because above all, this request was a slap in the face to His own sovereign ability to be everything for the people of God, interestingly,He doesnt mention one bit of this....but just out of other love mentions all the things that having Kings bring.Basically you yield up huge amounts of your energy earning power to support someone that, at the end of the day, does NOTHING FOR YOU, that you as a group moving in the Melchizedek order couldn't do much cheaper for your selves.

THERE IS NO SCARCITY. Listen if God can provide manna supernaturally to supply 2 to 3 million people in a desert, what's the problem in an earth of rich supply, minerally,agriculurally, fishily or any other "ily" as long as nations are prepared to LIVE from the ONE LIFE and supply each other.The LIE of "real life" then is that THERE IS LACK, and ofcourse by believing that lie, we have now created it in real terms, because between us all we have funded Monsanto, we have funded the genome project.
I thought the genome project was about our health. Listen sunshines, since when did our health matter acutely to pyramid powers?  No, the huge sums of money made suddenly and magically available to the genome project so that it was completed in a fraction of the expected time, was about nothing more than greed and control. You see, by controlling the world's food and reproduction, you can create more scarcity, and bring in the ultimate control and the ultimate pyramid of all time. The one Daniel and St John saw....and the one that knocked them to the ground because of it's immense Luciferian power. When they saw the vision, they fell faint. Luckily...they saw the next bit too, which was the awesomely greater power of Jesus Christ lived out of human flesh bodies, in an even greater victory, which knocked them off their feet again....

But are you starting to get the picture?
Real life, control and pyramids   was never real life. The power of Rome over all Israel, and therefore over Jesus was totally real. It had an effect on the Sovereign power of the Universe in human form. But in the end. In the end. Real life was not real life, but just a projected illusion. The projected illusion of Lucifer, manifest in Roman form over the whole of the Mediterranean area.In the end, all of us writers have had to decide what is true LIFE, or this projection called "real life", that for 40-50 years were charismatic churches who rejected each of us in turn. We had to find our own supply, the Living Lord Jesus. And this has been good practice for a pyramid system that started turning very vicious around 2008. It is a lie ofcourse.It's a lie, because ever since I have been converted in 1972, God has spoken through the church that this day would come. That there was never any way that the USA in particular and the UK too, could continue with such debt. And the prophetic voices were continually drowned out by "real life" saying the opposite, until suddenly, the false sustainers of this system, decided to pull the rug in 2008. The time had come.Feminism, whatever it was about in God terms....I for one think that the Church lived like dodos for centuries, not understanding that Jean Darnall, Aimee Semple  McPhersonl,Maria Woodworth Etter,Kathryn Kuhlman,Ruth Heflin, in the Spirit were here to stay...
but in human banker Luciferian terms, feminism was never about women, it was about leveraging the last drops of money out of grossly inflated house collateral, to raise the  necessary dollars for the "black ops" star wars machinery and military and scientific equipment to be able to subjugate every last country to a new world order control system.

1800s Austrian state control, followed by Communism and fascism, were just the localised practise runs. This is the "real life" everyone has funded because they never prayed "Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil" every week anymore since the Masonry designed Enlightenment project began 200 years ago.Wars and rumours of wars: wars killed millions in a sacrifice to Satan, as well as hugely funding totaliterian plans. Atom bombs describe really well the devastation in Revelation and there was a rush to bank away in the Arctic already every kind of seed, for such an eventuality.
Jonah's own prophecy shows God's heart is always for people to get right. His prophecy never got fulfilled, which freaked him out. Prophecies are warnings, but if unheeded, will really work themselves out. For there are not  three realms. The Devil. God. And some benign Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil of "educated folk in between".This Knowledge Tree is our light....which is darkness. The darkness is so great, wily and wondrous, it looks just like light to us. But it's a "huge front organisation" for Darkness. In fact it is the biggest. And Revelation describes all the things it will bring if we do not turn to God's own heart. He will DELIVER US from evil, but only if we choose NOT TO GO THE WAY OF TESTING.

We have a little idea of what that was, with Communism and Fascism. Communism to date, under Stalin and Mao, has caused the world's statiscally greatest famines ever....all in the same century. The same Father of lies is planning much greater statistics.Let's choose REAL LIFE, but this time, the REAL REAL LIFE. The one of no scarcity, like the birds overhead, and the flowers beautifully clothed. The supernaturally Word sustained life, of a relationship with God our Father.
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    • Joan Reilly
      Thank God for Real Life, Chris. We see this "real life" unfolding all around us and don't have any control over it. The past many years it was my belief that I had to do something to save our country, our family, our lives. ...participat...See more

      Wednesday at 15:55 · · 5

    • Rich Novek
      Thank you Chris! Hallelujah! Praise His Name! What a testimony of His Grace and POWER! Anyone hearing this woman, did you just hear what she said? She NOW realizes she can't save anyone, she has gone from being "doing" focused to "bein...See more

      Wednesday at 16:08 · · 3

    • Karla Rae Harper Amen. And I've known Joan when she 'knew' this and when she didn't 'know' this....Believe me....you all would like her much more NOW!! LOL!!!
      Yesterday at 01:04 · · 4

    • Rich Novek Joan is a gem, and God used you to make her shine! Woo Hoo!
      Yesterday at 01:09 ·

    • Rich Novek We have a "Real Life" relationship with a "Real Life" God! And the Light IN us, who is also the Light is blazing and shadowless!
      Yesterday at 01:22 · · 2

    • Joan Reilly The above peeps are greatly greatly appreciated and loved. They have blessed my life in countless ways and they know it.
      Yesterday at 02:59 · · 4

    • Nancy Gilmore This is NOT a direct quote from Norman Grubb, but he said something to this effect; "God 'means' evil to be evil, and He is working THAT together for good, where there is faith." I too see this as "seeing through" to God only.
      Yesterday at 03:44 · · 4

    • Rich Novek Cool Nancy! Another Norman pearl!
      Yesterday at 04:27 · · 2

Friday, 27 January 2012

Melchizedek Conclusion by EE Brooks

There were Three major feasts in the Old Testament.
Every man in Israel was required to keep all three of
these feasts.
The Feast of Passover – The Feast of Pentecost – The Feast of Tabernacles
These were but a type and a shadow of what would fully come. Jesus is the Passover Lamb, which was slain
for the sins of the world. During Passover we learn all about Jesus. When the Feast of Passover had fully
come Jesus knew his hour had come to be crucified.
John 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should
depart out of this world… (KJV)
When the Feast of Pentecost had fully come, the Holy Spirit was revealed to the world according to the
Bible. During the Feast of Pentecost we learn all about the Holy Spirit. We learn about the gifts and fruits of the
Holy Spirit etc.
It’s no coincidence that God the Father would Reveal Himself during the Feast of Tabernacles! We expect to
learn more about our heavenly Father during Tabernacles. The Feast of Tabernacles has Not Fully come yet.
But we are expecting it at any time now.
During Passover we learned about Jesus.
During Pentecost we learned about the Holy Spirit.
During Tabernacles we will learn about the Father.
When God glorifies the physical body of the "Overcomers" or the "Sons of God," then the Feast of Tabernacles
will have fully come. All creation is currently waiting for this event. God’s GLORY will dwell in the Physical
Bodies which are Not made with Hands! We must go beyond Passover and Pentecost. We are now at the end
of the Pentecost age and are on the threshold of Tabernacles. We must prepare for the New thing God is
about to do.
THE FULLNESS OF THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES
"The TABERNACLE OF GOD is with MEN!"
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, The Tabernacle of God is with Men,
and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them…KJV)
Revelation 18:1 I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the Earth was
Lightened with his Glory. (KJV)
Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the Glory of God
did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
There are 30 - 60 and 100 fold Christians. Some will become One with Jesus and the Father. Some will
actually sit IN God’s Throne! These will not die but be translated into the Melchizedek Priesthood. They’ll
receive the full Glory of the Father in their Body and Shine Like the Sun even as Jesus does!
Matthew 13:43 Then the Righteous will Shine like the Sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let anyone with
ears listen! (NRSV)
Jesus has a Glorified Body and some day you will meet him and be able to shake hands with him, embrace
him and personally thank him face to face! When we see Jesus, "We shall be Like Him!" And remember that
Jesus "is Like Melchizedek" the Father!
The Father is the same way. Some day you will meet him and he will embrace you! He loves you with an
everlasting Love. The Father is approachable and he is lovable. The true nature of the Father is Love,
Mercy and Forgiveness. That’s the highest nature of God. We need to get to know the Most High God in a
more personal way than ever before. The Most High God is El-Elyon, and when we see the Father, "We
shall be like Him too!" We all shall be ONE!
 [E. E. Brooks] . taken from an article called Melchizedek

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Chris Welch:  Readers will know I post related articles from different authors.  One of the other authors on this subject is David Swan.
Because we are brought up in linear thinking, we are taught that THIS = THAT.
In the Spirit, Jesus was always saying...."and if you should believe it...Elijah is already come", for example speaking about John the Baptist. Jesus saw things as cycles and patterns. Wheels within wheels.
THIS is not exclusively THAT, it is a type of this or that. Is a pattern of this or that.
It's a different way of thinking.

I believe that many of the things in this article that EE Brooks is seeing its finalised form are themes that are already appearing on the Earth, materializing out of heaven right now....which remember is the Eternal NOW.
So it's natural we start focussing on Jesus in the flesh....Andre Rabe's subjects which state God in flesh was the ORIGINAL plan, not a runner's up prize.

Heaven operates by believing what we cannot see about what is NOW true in the Eternal Now. Then we see what we believe.



Thursday, 26 January 2012

Some communing with John Stevens

Hi Chris,

Ah the human body! Sounds rather painful so I hope you're mending. What does that mean in terms of your business?

Very much enjoyed your latest blog. For me anyway seemed to be very clear.

Last year sometime I ran into furrowed brows when I tried to speak about the bread in communion, so it brought back memories.

I wouldn't claim to have really got hold of it entirely but 'This is my body' is such an evocative phrase. Memorable and familiar to those of us with a liturgical past or present, ingrained in the repeating music of priests week by week, like 'Our Father who art...'. It kind of washes over you and leaving an impression but not necessarily much revelation.

Some maybe, familiar with the Protestant/Catholic argument, transubstantiation and all, may feel that the argument describes the real fault lines whereas it may be that the fault line really exposes the weakness of the underpinning strata. If so we need to explore further back and not dwell on the argument itself i.e. that Jesus was speaking literally in some sense - leading to the Catholic view, or figuratively - leading to the protestant view.

But what if Jesus was speaking chemically?

Drink eat. The wine and the bread are ingested and become us. So what does it mean to allow the blood to become us? And the body? Is it that we have become walking talking christs embodying forgiveness and the life of Christ for others. So 'communion' isn't simply a celebration of what Christ has done for us but is also a celebration of what He has become in us. So it is representational but not limited to describing the terms of covenantal membership but describes the members themselves as real space-time manifestations of that covenant.

Do this in remembrance of me. We have been transformed, crucified and raised into a new creation 'a new species' a la CS Lewis. And who enabled that to happen? The 12 with Jesus for that meal were perhaps charged in a unique way and finally became the outworking fulfilment of Israel to be a light to te Gentiles. Remembering is a spiritual living thing not simply a memory. It is active - like 'put on Christ' we clear out of our systems anything that would rise up to contradict the truth that has been accomplished in us. We can forget, that is lose hold of these things and sometimes we need to be brought back to the startling truth that is finished it has been done and so on. Repentance in that sense not to do with specific moral failure but letting go or turning away from anything other than the truth of the gospel to influence our lives.  

Until I come. Well there's something. We go about the earth carrying the dying of the Lord Jesus that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our body (blood and bread). And when that day comes. What a day it will be. However long that day is. The Son of God caught up with the sons of God. All revealed just what He accomplished through dying as a seed and being raised up many times over. True brothers. Like Him in every way. It is finished will be fully understood through and through.

Wondering whether a 2012 Portsmouth pilgrimage may be on. There'd have to be a decent curry at the end of the journey to bring it to fulfilment I suspect?

Hope the zip holds.

John