This post is not as simple as the writer saying ,"Because you do not believe A. then you are going the way of heretics." I want to flag up something at a deeper level, and use Jordan Maxwell as an example.
I just wrote in Facebook
Proverbs 3:5-6 is like a world opening from inside out. It was the first song I was given by the Lord in 1972 or so. But i didn't have a clue it would go with me through all three stages of Spirit growth (as in 1 John 2). Basically a hairy-tic or a genuine heretic is someone who has switched off in his heart from a Living relationship with God. What happens almost immediately is we rely on our own insight again and start building constructions which are always linear in some way, and not LIVING, and thus suspended between paradoxes. Truth is a Person. One of yer typical Christian heretic divides comes between Calvinism...Sovereign God does everything and Armenian...we DO it. Both are bunkum. And this is a good example because this is how we know they are bunkum. A Calvinist does not proselytize...because he might be affecting God's will for Him, messing His whole plan up. So Calvinist churches end up being ever more insular and incestuous combinations of family members. Armenians on the other hand know how to pull people in numerically, but soon you observe as fast as people come into their churches , then just as fast people leave by the back, because nothing spiritual has ever taken place in the new "Sign on the dotted line convertees."
Both heresies are not God proof, and God uses both...because He actually is difficult to exclude from things totally, and He has this habit of showing up.
Ephesians 6 describes the Armour of God. But what does it have to say about Truth?
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. 14 Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
having girded your loins with truth,
It's not the eyepatch of truth or the turban of truth.
Truth is experienced in your innermost being.
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not rely on your insight. proverbs 3:5
When God speaks to us He speaks to our whole being. Quite often our whole being tingles. Something has that ring of truth. (Like a Colgate ad commercial.)
When God said to Adam
16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not [n]eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”
That would have resounded in his whole being. It was clear as a bell. Do not do this one thing.
Then the serpent comes with an idea. And an inner inspiration....but not from God's Spirit, from another luring spirit that felt exciting.
“You surely will not die! 5 For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
(this was spoken to Eve if you want pedanticism...but here I am understanding Adam and Eve as the one unit....mankind.)
And the devil comes with this essentially uncheckable data as if we should have some data to match it.
But when we received God's Word it never came as a data fact sheet. We just knew in our inner being that this was God speaking, and it was Him defining the boundaries. As soon as we try to meet the devil at data level, it's often strategically worked that we cannot, and ofcourse this makes us feel worse and more vulnerable.
This is what has happened concerning Evolution.
Yesterday I reposted this from a Protocol
ProtocolII.3 DESTRUCTIVE EDUCATION: Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism, Marxism, Nietzsche-ism. To us Jews, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the GOYIM
Yet after decades of research God fearing people still return a no proof verdict concerning animals and birds and other living things that are supposed to be in mid-flux evolution still. Many and wonderful are the different shapes and forms of the various animal and bird groups, but there aren't the plethora of hybrid forms that are meant to represent a world where evolution is still operational.
The new subject of "astrotheology" is a clever reconstructed version of Sun theology, or Apollos, or Horus.
As convincing as it sounds speakers such as Jordan Maxwell hardly mention that they are influenced by the architects of the New World Order, including Blavatsky and Theosophy, these same forces that have moulded the United Nations itself, as a stepping stone on to World Government.
Here is a picture of Jordan Maxwell's radio show and some very interesting historical comments about Maxwell and the whole New Age (spiritual side of New World Order)movement on Alex Jones prison planet forum.
TOPIC HEADING :Jordanus Maximus AKA Jordan Maxwell debunked vid
« on: May 15, 2008, 10:25:59 PM »
nowhere to run writes
This is a film detailing the many mistakes and outright lies of Jordan Maxwell.
After months of research and checking Jordan Maxwell’s “facts” I found him to be a very deceptive and manipulative teacher. In addition to debunking many of his claims this films looks at his motivations and associations and shows that his philosophy is exactly that of the So called New World Order, although its very cleverly hidden. You will find his devotion to Theosophy includes naming Himself “Jordanus Maximus”
I used to believe everything this man said.
Do I Think he is one of THEM?
I don’t know, but I do know that whether he is or not he is helping sell so called Truth Seekers the New World Order religion on a silver platter.
Some Questions I answered:
Does the sun die on the cross of the zodiac?
Is the compass rose an acronym for “NEWS”
Does Christ mean “oil”?
Does anoint mean “sex”?
Is God merely a volcano?
Does the ark of the covenant represent the feminine ability to give life?
Did King Solomon exist?
Is the name Solomon derived from Sol OM On
Does OM mean The Sun?
Do we call turning on lights “on” because of Heliopolis?
Does Solomons temple represent sex?
Was Manna in the bible psychedelic mushrooms?
Where is the mushroom painting?
Does mushroom art in the 1200 speak for Christianity?
Does Judaism come from Saturn Worship?
Did the Egyptians say the sun was setting because of their god Set?
Does Yahweh or YHWH mean the building up and releasing of dynamic energy? And is it associated with sex?
Did Jordan Maxwell get His name from Blavatskys “Jordanus Maximus” and if so why is he lying about it?
Why does he….
Jordan Maxwell calls for a new world order
He says God communicates with us only through symbols
He says the non-human/human hybrids are here and that they have a “divine right” to rule over us and that he is smart enough to accept it.
He also says that these hybrids are going to reward him for understanding their symbols
Some history about the Nephilim and the sons of god
Jordan Maxwell describes his encounter with aliens he explains how he told these entities that he would do their will as long as the didn’t come to him in his room or “abduct him”
And he explains how this deal was later confirmed and they would “channel” through him. He describes his uncle and family in the Vatican and the mob and says they are one in the same. More weird associations and conclusions.
Here is the audio if you cant watch movies for some reason
Also I did an interview with a guy a while back he does a radio show too and he did a movie on Maxwell too exept his was a very pro one, he stayed with Jordan for around a week in LA getting footage, so anyway this guy had me on to talk about this, this is before I out this movie together, it’s a very interesting show it can be downloaded here
We do know that one of the main goals of the New World Order is the establishment of a new ONE World religion. Which means that 'established' religions will either need to 'adapt' or be destroyed.
How do we know this?
Well, we do have warnings about just that from quite a while ago:
Robert Dale Owen, Fanny Wright and Orestes Brownson formed the Workingmen's party in New York, but after Brownson converted to Christianity, he later revealed their plan in The Works of Orestes Brownson (vol 19).."The great object was to get rid of Christianity....The plan was to establish a system of state-we said national-schools, from which all religion was to be excluded. The plan has been successfully pursued...and the whole action of the country on the subject has taken the direction we sought to give it...."
Horace Mann, known as the "Father of American public education", as president of the Massachusetts senate, signed the Education Bill of 1837 establishing the first state board of education in the U.S. In Horace Man: A Biography
Johnathan Messerli writes that Mann:
"believed the nation needed new enabling institutions, especially public schools....What the church had been for medieval man, the public school must now (in Mann's time) become for democratic and rational man. GOD would be replaced by the concept of the Public Good, sin and guilt by the more positive virtues of Victorian morality and civic conformity, and mankind would emancipate itself once and for all, not only from the relentless gnawings of a Puritan conscience, but through its own self-attained enlightenment, from the endemic evils of poverty,ignorance, violence, disease, and war.....for the first time in the history of western man, it seemed possible for an intellectual and moral elite to effect mass behavioral changes (via a system of public schools) and bring about a new golden age of enlightened ethics, humanism, and affluence".
Ah...sounds lovely, does it not? Of course there are a few niggly little sentiments that might cause one concern...if one reads it carefully. (civic conformity?) (intellectual and moral elite?) (evils of a Puritan conscience")
Well...it actually goes further back than that.
According to University of Edinburgh professor John Robison in Proofs of a Conspiracy (1798), the goal of the Illuminati was to root out all religion and ordinary morality, abolish national distinctions, demean patriotism, and 'rule the world'.
On July 4 1798, Dr Timothy Dwight, president of Yale University, delivered a discourse in which he claimed:
"In the societies of Illuminati doctrines were taught...(such as): The being of GOD was denied and ridiculed....the possession of property was pronounced to be robbery....adultery, assassination, poisoning and other crimes of the like infernal nature, were taught as lawful, and even as virtuous actions. To crown such a system of falsehood and horror all means were declared to be lawful, provided the end was good....Of the goodness of the end every man is to judge for himself....The great and good ends proposed by the Illuminati...are the overthrow of religion, government, and human society civil and domestic. These they pronounce to be so good, that murder....and war, however extended and dreadful, are declared by them to be completely justifiable, if necessary for these great purposes....
I wonder what he would think of Yale now?
Fourteen years after Timothy Dwight's above-mentioned discourse, retiring Harvard University president Joseph Willard claimed (July 4 1812):
"There is sufficient evidence that a number of Societies of the illuminati, have been established in this land...They are doubtless secretly striving to undermine all our ancient institutions, civil and sacred...We live in an alarming period. The enemies of all order are seeing our ruin. Should infidelity generally prevail, our independence would fall, of course. Our republican government will be annihilated."
Said almost 200 years ago.
And maybe from the Illuminists themselves:
The Secret Doctrine of Theosophy, explained by Alice Bailey, in her book, Externalisation of the Hierarchy, dictated to her by her Guiding Spirit, Master D.K. (Alice Bailey was the Director of the House of Theosophy)
The Secret Doctrine teaches that there are always three distinct classes of human beings -- 1) Enlightened, Advanced Men, who were "sparked" by the Hierarchy; 2) Masses of ordinary people, with ordinary intelligence and spiritual knowledge, which are called, Middle Classes; 3) Savage races of people who are so ignorant and so lacking in spiritual knowledge they can barely be called human. [p. 47-48](Sounds familiar, eh?)
Adolf Hitler joined The Thule Society in 1919, becoming an adept under the leadership of Dietrich Eckhart. Later, the Thule Society selected Hitler to be their leader of the New World Order, as Eckhart revealed on his deathbed, saying, "Follow Hitler; he will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. I have initiated him into the Secret Doctrine, opened his centers in vision, and given him the means to communicate with the powers." (Trevor Ravenscroft, The Spear Of Destiny, p. 91).
More from dear Alice Bailey - Director of Theosophy:
"The Masonic Movement ... will meet the need of those who can, and should, wield power. It is the custodian of the law; it is the home of the Mysteries and the seat of initiation. It holds in its symbolism the ritual of Deity, and the way of salvation is pictorially preserved in its work. The methods of Deity are demonstrated in its Temples and under the All-seeing Eye the work can go forward. It is a far more occult organisation than can be realised and is intended to be the training school for the coming advanced occultists ... in Masonry you have the three paths leading to initiation. As yet they are not used, and one of the things that will eventuate -- when the new universal religion has sway and the nature of esotericism is understood -- will be the utilization of the banded esoteric organism, the Masonic organism and the Church organism as initiating
centres. These three groups converge as their inner sanctuaries are approached. There is no dissociation between the One Universal Church, the sacred inner Lodge of all true Masons, and the inner-most circles of the esoteric societies. (Pages 511, 513)
Interestingly, Alice also mentions:
" that the world must first be reorganized into Spheres of Influence before it could be organized into a Global government" (Page 209). She made it very clear that this reorganization would not follow traditional national boundaries, but would be a completely different organization.
"The Spirit of Peace is hovering close to humanity, seeking opportunity to make His Presence felt. The Spirit of Peace is not an abstract concept but a potent Individual, wielding forces hitherto unfamiliar to our planet. Great Forces are awaiting the hour when They can function as the Liberators and the Deliverers of mankind. But the door to Their entrance must be opened by humanity itself and it will be opened by a united act of the will, expressed through some formula of words and expressed in sound. It will be brought about by an activity performed simultaneously by all men and women of goodwill and by all the world aspirants and disciples. The door will not open unless the act of invocation is backed by the focussed will. The directed determination of the man or the group who is using the suggested formula, prayer, or invocation is essential."
But wait a minute! In 1939 she wrote:
"What I say here has no specific reference to any individual; I am considering the world problem, centering around the Jews as a whole ... The Black Lodge is occupied with the matter aspect in its multiplicity of forms. Hence, my brothers, the beneficent nature of death.
Nevertheless, for the progress of the soul of the individual and the soul of humanity, death is inevitable, good and necessary."
Thus, Alice Bailey's Plan, stated almost 50 years ago, would be realized, i.e., that the Great One would reinstate the Ancient Mysteries Religion as the New World Order Religion. "These Mysteries, when restored, will unify all faiths."
Except those, of course, who do not deem their deaths to be 'inevitable, good, and necessary" to those "Illumined" ones.
And I wonder who the great "Spirit of Peace" individual is that she speaks of?
All the major religions are to be melded into one......the One World Religion. But in order to accomplish THAT, the 'powers-that-be" MUST cause them to battle against each other (the "Holy Wars"....Islamofascists, etc)...so that people will be MORE inclined to go along with the ONE WORLD RELIGION because they are so tired of the endless wars, etc. And of course - those who profess to have no belief in any of the faiths will actually have no reason to NOT go along with it too - since they believe it all to be a bogus control mechanism anyway.
So, the only ones left out are those ridiculous religious folk that won't go along with the whole "All Religion is the Same Thing" argument. AH...but those may be 'raptured" anyway, right? What if there was a FAKE RAPTURE? (a la Project Bluebeam?) or any number of advanced weapons that we don't even know about that could take them out?
I wasn't able to watch the whole of Zeitgeist so maybe someone can answer me this - I don't remember Maxwell getting into Islam or Buddhism or many of the other world faiths. Is he just trying to disprove Christianity?