Sunday 27 April 2014

More on Peniel . Psalm 118:27 and Ephesians

Yesterday's post was on Jacob and the Angel at Peniel in Genesis 32.

Jacob's name which was given to him when his parents saw his character manifest from birth, meant twister,deceiver,usurper, manipulator.

Forced by his own actions to flee the wrath of his brother Jacob ends up residing with somebody who either was a worse twister than Jacob, or was responding to the information given when Jacob introduced himself.
His uncle thought...."Hmm...twister is come to stay."

However it was...God's treatment, his prescription to Jacob through his uncle was to be treated in the same way....even with a smile!!!!

With that kind of urgency you would certainly drop every other church behaviour like the Ebola virus it is.

Jacob eventually tired of all this and arranged for him and his family to sneak out, kind of circumnavigating his full spiritual circumcision!!!!  It is interesting that Daniel Yordy sneaked out of his environment in the Move. Only for God to send a Christ Chris across his path, that Daniel instead is viewing very much as Adam Chris. (We can never know the paths for each...we can't even guess). But I mention all this not to come to any conclusions but because I want to link the Peniel incident
with 1.this verse
The LORD is God—he will be our light! Bind the festival sacrifice with ropes to the horn at the altar. Psalm 118:27

and

life in the Body of Christ ....the same body that St Paul describes in 1 Corinthians 12 where one says because you are not a hand I don't have need of you and another says because you are not an eye I have no need of you.

This , in all our immature state is the Body we are expected to live in and live among.

The Tree of Life is ONE.

Catholics rightly chide Protestants for endlessly splitting off.
But on the other hand what is equally true is JESUS had to operate largely OUTSIDE the synagogues because  Jews weren't about to receive Him properly.

Catholics do not receive anyone apart from themselves and  their own teaching contains hundreds and hundreds of years of Satanically inspired confusion. (about salvation. About the Holy Spirit. About priests.About confession. About what a church is and how it operates. About what ministry is. About what baptism is. About pedophilia. About the use of money and buildings....it just goes on and on....).

Luckily the answer isn't in a book. It isn't even in the Bible in that sense.
The answer to all these things is by each individual getting themselves connected in a Living way with the Melchizedek Order.


God's ordained Peniel  for each of us is within local church, our own family and our jobs and service.

This doesn't work very well at the moment because nobody really knows who they are.(So like in the rest of the Bible God has to work individually using completely different means.)
Who are we all then?
In short,  we are GOD  COMING IN THE FLESH. Should we choose it.

Catholics pay lipservice to God's Life, but as soon as God's Life shows up they burn them. Madame Guyon for example.

But Paul's sentences are so dynamic relating to Peniel that I really believe hardly anyone on earth sees it yet.
Sure they read this sentence weekly in one church or another all over the globe but no one "hears these words"...not really. Not in the sense that Jesus meant when He said He who has ears to hear let him hear.

I urge you once more to read these familiar words as if you were the last Christians on earth. As if it depended on you and you alone to build a church that would reproduce itself all over the globe. With that kind of urgency you would certainly drop every other church behaviour like the Ebola virus it is.

Ephesians 2.19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. what foundation?...a Catholic heirarchical pyramidal one through centuries regardless of wrongdoing? No....a personal relationship with Jesus coupled with a mature consciousness of Jesus Christ IN the apostle who had trained his senses according to righteousness initially with the physical person of Jesus for 3 and half years nonstop.


21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

3:17    you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

4:15 speaking the truth in love,
what truth?  The truth of Galations 2:20. The truth that we are now Christ in our form as us. Christ in us the hope of glory.

we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.NIV
so how do we grow? By growing individually then after decades by getting together with other Christians?
No we grow now as each shares the Christ that is already formed in them. We speak this truth in love. Straightforwardly. As fact. By faith that we are sharing the very SEED of GOD Himself forming Himself in the other believers as they hear and respond in faith.
Youngs Literal Translation of the Greek is a bit more graphic and firm, and diametrically opposed to the present versions of church on earth....

the whole body, being fitly joined together and united, through the supply of every joint, according to the working in the measure of each single part, the increase of the body doth make for the building up of itself in love.
Present church KILLS the supply of each single part.
If they involve people at all they ask too much or too little. Only the Holy Spirit inspires people and enables people with empowering and gifts of utterance to share properly and clearly "WORKING IN THE MEASURE OF EACH SINGLE PART."
This is a third level phrase. Christians just don't work properly, don't function properly until Christ is formed in them. We all form in different ways and we all have something already that is in Christ...and it is this authenticity...this REAL US...this REAL GIFT OF GOD we share.
 We don't just share learned facts. Learned skills. Abilities that are still coming out of a false delusional identity of a self powered us. That isn't Christ and it doesn't build Christ.

Saturday 26 April 2014

Jacob and The Angel, Songs by Suzanne Vega and Chris Welch (separately)








"Jacob And The Angel"

The angel came to Jacob
The room began to glow
Jacob asked the angel
Are you friend or are you foe?

The angel never answered
But smote him on the thigh
They wrestled through the darkness
Till morning filled the sky

This thing between us, has wings, it has teeth
It has got horns and feathers, and sinews beneath
Angel or demon, to the truth I am bound, and so
This thing between us must be wrestled down

Jacob held on to the angel,
Who turned to fly, and to flee
He said I must have your blessing
Before I let you leave me

The angel never answered
But smote him on the thigh
They wrestled through the darkness
Till morning filled the sky

And in the light
He knew another name
As he struggled and surrendered
To the next part of the game

This thing between us, has wings, it has teeth
It has got horns and feathers, and sinews beneath
Angel or demon, to the truth I am bound, and so
This thing between us must be wrestled down

This thing between us, has wings, it has teeth
It has got horns and feathers, and sinews beneath
Angel or demon to the truth I am bound and so
This thing between us must be wrestled down.

From Suzanne Vega's latest CD available also as mp3
Tales from the Realm of the Queen of Pentacles
(Yup, that'll be tarot then! Blog editor does not in anyway
encourage the reading of Tarot cards. There is no need
because the Holy Spirit has been sent to tell us all we
need to know)



THE JACOB SONG: Words and Music: © A. Christopher Welch 1988.
There is no easy way
It doesn't matter what you say
But it is possible / For you....
Now Jacob did a runner
To flee from his brother
Got himself caught on a sheep farm
His Uncle was nice
But kept him there twice
As long as he should've been.
He 'faithed' in speckled,and he 'faithed' in striped
His sheep numbered many
but this life he didn't like
Thought he'd do a runner to flee TO his brother
To get himself off of that sheep farm.
Met any angels lately?
Met any men with knives?
Met any angels lately?
Met any men with knives?
Jacob dreamed up a dream
He schemed up a scheme
With his wives he fled by night
So with his wealth and stealth
Thought he'd preserve his health
Rather than face the one appointed.
Met any angels lately?
Met any men with knives?
Met any angels lately?
May give you quite a surprise.
Now the Lord's kinda kind
But it's not in his mind
That we stay in the state that we are
So he rigged up a fight
With Jacob one night
And fixed him up a name transplant
Yes fixed him up a name transplant.
Met any angels lately?
Met any men with knives?
Wild beasts are clawing at your heels
Maybe it's God in disguise.
There is no easy way
It doesn't matter what you say
Its possible..... For you (x 2)
A name transplant
For you.
Additional Vocals: Nicholas +Elisa Daniels. copyright A. Christopher Welch 1988

Peniel - Meaning

I have never heard a full meaning. The Holy Spirit continues to fill us in.
At the moment I am feeling that there is something 1.about this incident and 2. my intention in writing this song IN 1988 that divides me (at present) from an easy relationship with Daniel Yordy, and others that I believe have similarities with him, such as Brad Jersak and Michael Hardin.
The division seems to stem from this.
If you still see separation ....the genesis 3 condition of man down here and God way off somewhere, then forever and a day you will be praying, hoping, somehow that God's angel/s will  mediate....will somehow come and bridge the gap....come and touch us....or  to use the Bethesda incident....stir the waters.

Ed Miller thought in these terms and really relayed his experience of seeking God in the late 40s in Argentina.
He described the spiritual desolation he went through in a fairy tale....where he representing the Bride earnestly seeking her Prince...the bridegroom Jesus, was led out into a wilderness where she ran out of all resources. At her wit's end. in total weakness, she suddenly is aware of her Prince who comes and sweeps her onto His stallion with Him, and like all good romantic stories they ride off together.

In the Old Testament and the New are a whole series of individual stories of how God "gets" His men and women. The Peniel incident is one of the most mysterious. Yet it is impossible to overstress the importance.
Why? History DIVIDED at this very point.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were three consecutive generations of one family that not only were believers, they each pressed on further into seeking God. Peniel marks the culmination of this .
Jacob had already wrestled with the man, the angel, or God in physical form. Genesis 32.
When the man saw Jacob was just not going to let go the scripture says
"he touched the socket of his thigh; so the socket of Jacob’s thigh was dislocated while he wrestled with him.
Then he said, “Let me go, for the dawn is breaking.” 
But he said, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.” 
27 So he said to him, “What is your name?” 
And he said, “Jacob.” 
28 He said, “Your name shall no longer be Jacob, but Israel; for you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed.” 
29 Then Jacob asked him and said, “Please tell me your name.” 
But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And he blessed him there.
 30 So Jacob named the place Peniel, for he said, “I have seen God face to face, yet my [p]life has been preserved.” 
31 Now the sun rose upon him just as he crossed over Peniel, and he was limping on his thigh."

The guy's socket is wrenched but he's still clinging on!!!! WOW.

The Kingdom suffers violence until now and violent men take the Kingdom by force.

What is your name?
Usurper. Twister. Manipulator. Deceiver. Jacob.

We are forced into face to face mode with God. Well that's the point , we are not forced...BUT IF WE FORCE THE ISSUE....if we really want it....

Jesus is the WAY, the Truth and the Life.
He is the WAY through to the Truth about ourselves and about the holiness of God. In that ugly NON LIFE

moment. When we see our nature...our inner identity full on...our very character....our true agenda of self for self.....
IRONY of IRONIES this is the exact time God births His Life....or unstops His Lifeflow in our inner being, and rivers of Living Water begin cascading out!!!.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS BLOG. THIS IS THE THIRD LEVEL.
It is not Abraham's encounters. They were the foundation.

It is not the wells that Isaac dug. Representing the baptism in the Holy Spirit realm. Uncovering new anointings. New waters of the Spirit.

THIS IS A NAME CHANGER.
Where NAME is the Hebrew understanding, and means essential character , essential  PERSON.

In this awful moment  which is exactly related to the end of Romans 7. We see sin in the flesh.

Not the activity sin.
SIN spirit.
In our members.

Rendering us powerless.
And desperate.

The Name change is the realisation that the ONLY LIFE in the Universe is GOD.
We suddenly see through to God.
The devil sells us this fairytale that we, like him can live powered by our "own life", without telling us that it is spirit of wrongdoing which roots itself in us as we fall for the lie of independence.

Even his life is God's life.
Even he is totally deceived.
But it is God's life twisted back in on itself. SELF for SELF. What the Greeks term hubris, or Ego.God's own pure life is self for others love.

For more forensic detail, study the early chapters of Norman Grubb's series "Yes I am".

It is here I want to say something very radical.This is the game changer.
This is is something new.

This is something the Union crowd who formed thenselves around Norman's revelation have yet to see.

Up until now there has been something deeply personal in seeking God's face.

But the scriptures Psalm 110 and Psalm 24 use a shocking phrase which is KEY, and which Daniel Yordy has not yet grasped.

The phrase is:
THIS IS THE GENERATION WHO SEEK THE FACE OF THE GOD OF JACOB.Ed Miller was on his own.
Daniel Yordy has been on his own seeking out the truths behind "the Eyes of Fire"
I was in the Emsworth church and as a church we sought the face of the Lord together. But it wasn't deep enough. You can take that as if I am talking from pride. But you would be 100% wrong. Quite simply I was desperate. No amount of anointing to lead in worship was cutting anything at all. And believe me God had blessed me with much anointing. So I was forced deeper. On my own.

Daniel talks of Asbergers and I have absolutely no idea of the things he has had to face. But as bad as Asbergers is you can still talk about it.
My testimony is not something that can ever be talked about.
Adultery was bad enough ( I as a single) but that was just the beginning as God used a prophet to bring me down to Emsworth.

THIS IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.

OR EVERYBODY THAT KNOWS....and is now too disgusted to speak.

As more and more come into the RIGHTEOUSNESS of JESUS CHRIST and Him only.
Ian Clayton, Mother Basilea Schlink and others speak of an intense time the Lord takes us through where we actively cover everything...and I mean everything....all figleaves torn off....and we cover everything with the Blood of Jesus.

In the 12 step course devised originally by Jessie Penn Lewis of Keswick Conventions there is the taking of a personal inventory.
There is the NAMING of our NAME....as did Jacob.
For Ian Clayton this meant months of entering the Presence of the Lord and letting the Holy Spirit review every time period of Ian Clayton's life.....and actively he was led to sprinkle the Blood of Jesus over it. After months of this he felt soooooo clean, soooo renewed , a totally new person.

Now as a community forms of such people the Christ Righteousness Forcefield that will be among them shall mean that people will enter and immediately fall before the Lord and repent.

BUT HERE IS THE RADICAL THING....
Some people won't behave in this way, but God in His mercy will increasingly use His collective people to unearth this junk.
Unearth the scrawlings on the inner walls of the Temple as in Ezekiel 8:10.

We will begin behaving as a GENERATION. A NEW GENERATION.

Up until now the only thirdlevellers have been loners. Watchman Nee. Basilea Schlink. Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Ed Miller. Sam Fife.   They have then gathered a people to disciple them.

What I am saying is we as a generation will begin to radically disciple each other.


This is the true third level meaning of the scriptures penned by St Paul in Ephesians.

"The body building itself up in love, joined by that which each supplies (of Christ substance alreadsy inworked in each) once each part is working properly."


When does a part work properly?
The first level? No at that stage, they are learning about basic forgiveness and grace.
The secondlevel? No, this is when the Holy Spirit starts teaching and leading people into the experience corporately of the Holy Place....of learning the basics of the new identity in Christ...

but no...outsode of meetings they are not "fixed there" in their consciousness yet.

NO. THINGS REALLY START TO ROLL IN THE THIRD LEVEL OF GROWTH.

Typically people are not used to FUSED people.
People are used to seeing others after the flesh.

But this is not so applicable if people are fused with Christ in their consciousness.

If like Jesus they are driving moneychangers out of the temple with whips it can nolonger just be assumed that anger is in the flesh. It just may not be.

And this was the path that got me ejected from Emsworth Church, because they too were not prepared for their prayers concerning me to be ever answered.

And this is the problem with Bethsaida type places all waiting rou
nd a pool for an "angel to stir the waters". You see it might just be that the third level man called Jesus turn up and suddenly say....Forget the endless charismatic routines....now I AM HERE....God in flesh and blood. Now do you want to get healed and delivered TODAY.

TODAY is the day of salvation.
Today is the DAY God is squeezing us into.
He is the I AM and TODAY is where He lives.

The shadows flee away....the tussles are over...
Our Name has changed.

We are now Prince of EL
Israel

Prince of God.

YES I AM.

It is nolonger I who live but Christ who lives in me. The life I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God.......

Friday 25 April 2014

When the devil says what would otherwise be normal, natural positive phrases


Have you noticed when the devil says what would otherwise be normal, natural positive phrases, they suddenly sound disgusting.
Examples
When the BBC say Pro-Life on the news it sounds like something totally weird, a fringe activity. So Yup...you betcha...I am FOR LIFE. I am not for DEATH. If a child just doesn't quite yet have the luxury of being fully developed yet, I am FULLY FOR its future, to GIVE LIFE A GO. Killing that life off, I am not for. OK?
Truthers. Ever heard that word? Like whistleblowing might be wrong for instance?
OK...what's the alternative? LIARS? Does that make me mainstream?
Heterosexual. A terrible option it would seem. Like there is something wrong with me. I'm a male. I like women. According to statistics, that's 96% of us.
Christian. So I believe, yes, God connected with three consecutive family members in an incredible way, Abraham,Isaac and Jacob, furthering revelation through each. Then He sought to roll out that relationship first through a people, the Jews, then to to the rest of the world through the one reconciling event of His Son...God in Man form. He set the whole thing up thousands of years ahead of time in a book written by many many authors. Because the reconciling event would be over in a weekend, He even designed a whole slowmotion blueprint of what was going on again hundreds of years in advance, called the tabernacle. Then right on cue according to the prophecy of Isaiah 53, His Son, the true LAMB sacrifice, did suffer at man's hands, died, but rose again as promised to carry on telling us about it for 40 days, before His ascension. So yes, I certainly am a Christian. No other God story even comes close. If you want to be an atheist, that's up to you, but you still have to come up with a reason that Earth is so beautiful and perfect for us, and just about everywhere else isn't.
Violent A very non PC word. I have come to "blows" with my good friend Daniel Yordy on this. YUP I believe in one legitimate violence. The tearing down of every last Ezekiel 8:10 scrawling on people's inner walls. Tearing down proud speculations and thoughts that raise themselves against the Lordship of Christ. No, I do not believe in being nice to devils, any more than the doctors behave nicely with cancer. " The Kingdom suffers violence, and violent men take it by force." This is all inward stuff. It is mentioned in the Koran too. But both Christian USA and Muslim Arab nations take it too literally....and to misquote St Paul..they DO FIGHT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, but they do it with Harvard and Oxford educated niceness that the BBC will report on the news.

Wednesday 23 April 2014

Zeffirelli - The Power of Love

Franco ZeffirelliKBE (Italian: [ˈfraŋko ddzeffiˈrɛlli]; born 12 February 1923) is an Italian director and producer of films and television. He is also a director and designer of operas and a former senator (1994–2001) for the Italian centre-right Forza Italia party.........
Read more on Wikipedia


Some of you know that I am working as both a piano tuner, and also as a cleaner in a pub to help fill out the week, and involve myself in more strenuous daily activity. While I am cleaning I am currently doing a crash course on Who's Who.

Only I am doing the equivalent by means of Desert Island Discs. Where else is such a formidable record of people's potted lives to be found in their own words, coupled with very revealing portraits in the personal music they choose and love? I am not sure if this is available online to people overseas, but it is certainly available free now to all UK residents.

Why am I doing this?
Daniel Yordy really pinpointed a key for me about fiction in general, then the revelation of God IN A PERSON via their story.
So each episode I am listening to the movers and shakers and asking
  • from where do they hail....who were their forebears?
  • are there any common patterns emerging, especially among fellow musicians and artists?
  • are there any traces or giveaways concerning Illuminati connections or references as to real history?
  • are there any hidden aspects that are poohpoohed by figures such as Dawkins,Pratchett and other humanists that nevertheless keep emerging that are pointers to humans being primarily spirit in body casements.
I may delve into my findings in a later post.

Today I want to pull some details out of Zefirelli's life.
We begin in the natural. We are "sown " in the natural, we die as a seed, and are raised as spirits in the Earth now...long before our bodies fully respond to the resurrection. If you read Daniel Yordy you will find him pursuing the direction of Sam Fife which awakens the Body of Christ to believing for the full resurrection here and now of our bodies as did St Paul. I wouldn't give this house room apart from the fact that God spoke the self same thing out of my own mouth in a 1981 prophecy to Emsworth church in the very Tin Tabernacle that Smith Wigglesworth opened some 50 years beforehand.

The problem with religion is we try to work with the natural and make it more holy. Flesh and blood cannot be made more holy. We need a totally new Creation to form itself, birth itself out of our spirit man.
Galations 2:20 makes it quite clear that I HAVE DIED WITH CHRIST.

However Christian we were brought up, and I was, in the religion of Methodism, and Franklin Graham was as the son of Billy Graham. Franklin became a complete motorcycling rebel. His was totally the opposite image of his Dad. But he too was collared by a direct encounter with God and is now an evangelist.

My point with Zefirelli is that the details of his early life are excruciating.
Zeffirelli was born Gianfranco Zeffirelli, on 12 February 1923, in the outskirts of Florence, Italy. He was the result of an affair between Alaide Garosi, a fashion designer, and Ottorino Corsi, a wool and silk dealer. Since both were married, Alaide was unable to use her surname or Corsi's for her child. She came up with "Zeffiretti" which are the "little breezes" mentioned in Mozart's opera Così fan tutte, of which she was quite fond. However, it was misspelled in the register and became Zeffirelli.[2] When he was six years old, his mother died and he subsequently grew up under the auspices of the English expatriate community and was particularly involved with the so-called Scorpioni, who inspired his semi-autobiographical 1999 film Tea with Mussolini. Wikipedia

His parents were both married to other people. But they found love with each other. It broke the rules. Italy regarded Franco as a non person. Friends urged his mother to abort him. Italy was Catholic, and in very few circumstances could you ever receive an annulment of marriage.

But love was happening.
Franco was a product of love but not morality.

This doesn't LOOK like a promising start. But what a crucible for God to birth an understanding of LOVE and HIS LOVE, when man's love fails?

Now can you begin to understand why his two religious films have touched so many? Brother Sun Sister Moon about Francis of Assissi, and Jesus of Nazareth. See Youtube clips.

The man who gave me an apprenticeship in pianos was a converted ex-policeman on Hayling Island called Geoff Vaughan. He was thoroughly converted through the Jesus of Nazareth film. While running his piano shop in the late seventies and early eighties, and rising from secondhand piano dealer out the back of his garage to one of the foremost agents for Bluthner pianos on the South Coast in less than 15 years....yes, while doing this, he bought and rented out all Zefirelli films on VHS. Anybody know how much early VHS films were? YUP...£60 - £100 each!!!!!   Many many became Christians through this one man.

The crucible in which the seed is sown is offputtingly the very reverse of the end product. This is what throws people about the Kingdom of God. This is why Matthew 5 looks so bad. Blessed are those who are persecuted.......etc etc  It's like a reverse manufacturing form for whatever you are pressing out and making.
Where you want an indentation, the form, (the negative image on the thing applying pressure) has a protuberance.

People are continually fooled.
Rahab the Prostitute, Ralph Harris has noted, while being installed by God BANG in Jesus actual lineage, got there by doing one thing, and it wasn't giving up prostitution...initially. IT WAS LYING by faith...as in telling a lie....not the other kind of lying on a bed with someone.

GOD is forming PASSION for Himself.
Amazingly, when you consider the pain that Catholicism caused him, Zefirelli offered his PR services to the Pope.  In connection with this matter, he was quoted as saying "I am a Christian down to the depths of my spirit." Wikipedia
Many of the speakers on Desert Island Discs are very spiritual people, and you can't always tell how much their belief system is in line with what I would believe...but Zefirelli certainly comes over as one with incredibly deep insight as to how life really functions.

He made these observations too.

  • Maria Callas was sucked dry, hoovered by her marriage to Onassis. She never recovered. In my mind I was making these links:



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Unless history includes Illuminati history it remains an elusive seemingly random series of events. In reality, very very little is random. It isn't random that as Zefirelli said about Onassis' relationship with Maria Callas...he used her...he hoovered her....he sucked the life out of her from which, a broken woman, she never recovered. This is all very understandable when you learn Onassis and Stavros his brother inlaw were/ are right in the centre of everything, which is why they were in with Prince Phillip, and why Stavros helps lead Bilderberg with Rockefeller. The reason we know so little about Phillip is HIS choice NOT OURS. As head of Freemasonry in the UK, Phillip is so far in the centre of everything he doesn't want you to know.

  • He regards abortion as the worst crime on earth today because people are denying the right of existence to other human beings before they can even make any of their own decisions in the matter.
(obviously Franco Zefirelli would just be aborted today and  would would have lost one of the world's great directors both of film and opera.





Friday 18 April 2014

The Battle of Two Halfbreed Tribes


Instead of learning the Different Gates off each other, these halfbreed tribes have spent 100 years feuding and warring like Pharisees and Sadducees. In fact the parallels are incredibly close.


The Last Great Move is a move of Word and Spirit.
If we fail to press right through in God we fork at a crossroads en route. We become either charismatic, or evangelical.
For 100 years both tribes (similar to the kingdoms of Israel and Judah) have hurled insults across the ramparts, most recently John Macarthur's strange Fire Conference. And for a 100 years neither tribe has been able to conclusively win out.
You see John will rightfully point out that charismatics have not actually properly exchanged their life and so are liable to Kundilini spirits.
Meanwhile charismatics rightfully point out that the absurd way evengelicals carry on is absolutely in error when you consider the verse "Not by might , nor by power, but by My Spirit says the Lord." Well the evangelicals sent the Spirit packing decades ago.
Hmmmmm. So it is only now in 2014, 100 years later we have the answer. What is it? Both houses of God ARE BUT HALFBREEDS. They both contain only HALF the GATES of Jerusalem, different Gates are stored by God in each. In the New Move God is restoring ALL 12 GATES (BTW possibly up to 14!!!!) John MacArthur is a half breed because he and his cohorts refuse the Two Gates : the Fountain Gate followed by the Water Gate. You simply cannot have the Water Gate properly if you don't have the Fountain Gate first. But charismatics are halfbreeds too. They simply refuse the Keswick Teaching on the Valley Gate and the Dung Gate. They refuse the gospel of the Exchanged Life and Galations 2:20. Like Jacob before Peniel, they are busy zapping things here and there, like Jacob faithing in for himself speckled sheep and striped sheep for his own benefit, without realising his whole consciousness hasn't changed an inch since Genesis 3. He is STILL an orphan, he thinks, roaming around on earth, allbeit with the addition of this thing called the Holy Spirit...but basically God is a distant separate being "out there somewhere".
So awaken Church to your destiny. No more HIDING. Indeed we are squeezing both tribes out of the bushes. No more Halfbreeds!!! It's ALL THE GATES or NOTHING!!!!
“I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you......the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."

Thursday 17 April 2014

The Gospel in Africa is not quite the whole ticket

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I was in conversation about the tremendous build up we see according to Isaiah...behold the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the peoples, but UPON YOU!!!!!!!......
 And there our gospels take a fork. I describe my gospel.
 +++++++++++++++++++++++

 African brother
 The fact remains that evil will continue to increase but God forbid that we should take part. The bottom line of it all is, prepare to meet with Jesus. We are not here for the world to love us or care for us. As long as we are for Christ the world will hate us. Personally I don't expect the world to be born again, but if the true Children of God will remain faithful, God will be pleased. Lastly, persecution is part of this race, therefore any Christian who pray that persecution shouldn't come has not really started. Never run away because of evil men but run away from evil.

 Chris
 The gospel in Africa is wrong.
 It was brought in by men who were still at I John 2 children stage, or 1 John 2 young man stage
 If you do your research and try to find some 1 John 2 Father stage people you will see the gospel is all about smashing the evil one's works to pieces. For this purpose was the Son of God manifest that He destroy all the works of the evil One.
 But the trick is this....
 as St Paul discovered some of  Jesus' tricks:
 we have to go into death that others may live. Very few Christians are still doing this which is why so much of the devil's work still remains.
 We have to fill out in our bodies what was not sufficient in Christ's own body. In other words Galations 2:20 tells us Christ intends to COMPLETE the JOB in our bodies because we ARE the BODY of CHRIST now on earth.
 This is the Ephesians mystery. The whole process of Ephesians creates these "super fighters for God" in Ephesians 6. This is the spiritual fight that overcomes the world....
 Romans 12.1 offering our bodies as living sacrifices.
 I personally do not know anyone on earth at the moment who resembles the grace of God on St Paul....but that is where we are going. If the former house began with the 12 apostles and St Paul. it says the glory of the latter house shall be even greater.
 As we do a quick trip around the Gates of Nehemiah we see the complete gospel spelled out.
 We begin at the sheep gate and evangelism no 1 and 2 , we take up our cross and experience the loss of all things for Christ ...the valley gate and Dung Gate.
 Totally cionvinced of our powerlessness God baptises us in the Spirit at the Fountain Gate, and we learn from then on to walk according to the Spirit by drawing His spiritual water every day in the Water Gate.
 Once we are fixed in this new identity by His Spirit and by some incredible experiences of pain and glory, we become resady for the Horse Gate, which is like our commission direct from God.
 There are other Gates but one of the last is the Prison Gate or Gate of the Guard. This is the trick that Jesus and Paul pulled off. By letting themselves be "caught" by authorities and taken into prison, (prisoners of the Lord) they sprung open loads of devils traps. Jesus sprung open salvation for all time, Paul sprung open parts of the Roman empire. It is said it is difficult to even number the amount of Christians in some of the cities the growth was absolutelely phenomenal.. Now in Africa in my lifetime we have seen servants of God, who are filled with the Spirit having tremendous impact in millions on Africa, but as I say, these guys do not have quite the same gospel as Jesus and St Paul. They are still fuzzy on Galations 2:20, and the true meaning of the Book of Romans....so imagine what will happen in Africa when 1 John 2 Father stage people start going into action!!!! And this is why when we see the field white for harvest we are not allowed to rush straight into it. We have to "pray the Father that He send forth workers".
 In other words it's supernatural. The original Greek for "send forth workers" is much more explosive. It is like dynamite. It means to "thrust out workers". Men can't do this with organisational skills. This is a God produced thing and is the power behind revival!!!
 God alone, in the Holy Spirit, knows how to take ordinary men and put them through the automatic car wash that gets them from spiritual first graders (the children redemption stage) right through to people like St Paul, who were the father-level people in the first church!!!!

African brother
Please clear me on these. The Gospel in Africa you are talking about is it now or then that is wrong? Secondly do we have different gospels? How can I know the true gospel? Which denomination, tribe or religion will I follow in order to please God?
A few seconds ago
Chris
All denominations are very like the Pharisees and Sadducees in Jesus time. All their spiritual knowledge has been boxed into carnal understanding....(our conscious mind, our left brain, the surface bit of us we talk from). Like the Pharisees, it's not that all they say is wrong, it's just that not having the Holy Spirit they had simplified everything and missed whole chunks of God's truth out.
In the African churches there are many who are born again, very many indeed. There are some who have experienced the baptism in the Spirit experience.
This is like 1 John 2....the young man stage of growth.
Jesus describes the work of the Holy Spirit/the Comforter/the Counsellor He was going to send after He had returned to the Father.
See John Chapter 14.
At the moment there are no churches which teach Father level doctrines, but soon there will be churches like this.
The Father level doctrines are shown by the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth...IF WE WANT IT.

Norman Grubb has written a great last book before he died in the 1990s explaining the book of Romans very thoroughly. The book can be bought online. It is called "Yes I am".
Pastor Patrick Bwayo also understands many things. He lives in Kampala, Uganda.Otherwise just keep asking questions and I will try to answer them by God's help from the scriptures.

Tuesday 15 April 2014

Jerusalem's 10th GATE :The Inspection Gate



Facebook 15th April 2014
Mikkel Thomsen's post :"We just be what we spontaniously are, and by so we are a part of building others up to be free in who they are.... Christ in their forms. We just do and speak what we are and it is recieved by some and isn't by others all worked out by Grace through faith, and by so the Body builds itself up, ofcourse with Christ as the Head."


Chris Welch writes:
Norman Grubb lived in a very interesting transition period. After 2000 years of what Jesus described as a time when the Kingdom Field would be sown choc a block with rogue seed infestation, Norman saw in the then wonderful woman of God Jessie Penn Lewis, the key of the Christian Life. Now Jessie was actually wanting to get Norman to be baptised in the Spirit. He wasn't, but in the wisdom of God , in that moment began his articulation of what the whole Christian Life is about. So around the 1920s you have this amazing twin fork going on. Pentecostals and then charismatics went in one direction, and Keswick  and free evangelicals went in a slightly different fork, via Watchman Nee, and later Norman Grubb's discoveries of the Exchanged Life. Now for 2000 years we have got used and almost inured to division in the Body of Christ. Not having experienced anything different it is perfectly reasonable and "honorable" for friends in the church to upheel and stomp out on each other, and this is considered perfectly OK. It's similar to what has happened in society, where relationships becoming abusive and dangerous notwithstanding, now marriages breakdown at the drop of a hat, and this is also perceived as normal and acceptable in exactly the same way.

Jesus is ONE though.

 He is ONE THING.

 He actually neither knows nor recognises DIVISION.

He sees THROUGH every division with Eyes that see everything complete in the Father since before the beginning of Creation.

Mugginsville , Texas has let's say, 1st Baptist Church on 1st Avenue, The Lesser Climbing Unitarian Church opposite, Her Lady of the Golden Veil Catholic Church at the end of the block, The Navigators Coffee House is between the two, Mugginsville God TV Uplink is further down on the left...
BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE JESUS.

So what is the solution? Well Mikkel Thomsen has described the "BUFFERS" view, what happens as a last failsafe at the end of the trainline, before things fall off the train station. But none of this is normal Christianity.
Normal Christianity is the Holy Spirit being allowed to construct both personally and also as local churches according to the 12 Gates of Jerusalem, which represents one complete, healthy unit. The Holy Spirit will not allow a Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil  12 GATE checklist to be operated by our leftbrains. All attempts at this ofcourse have failed. This is because He operates only in the Tree of Life...and if all of us only built exactly according to the real life within us, we would find that all 12 Gates were functioning normally and we are operating as the spirit beings we are. So what's the answer? In the Spirit, the answer is Gate NO. 10. It is the inspection Gate. It is manned simultaneously by every single believer who is connected directly to the Head, but it also includes the firmest encouragement from elders...those who get recognised for connecting everybody to the Head direct. THIS IS THE FAILSAFE that has not been operational since the very first church, and is the reason why every single church Move or Revival gets so far, only half builds the Tower Jesus talked about, then collapses because it HASN'T BOTHERED TO CALCULATE FROM THE BEGINNING WHETHER IT HAS ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE TASK!!!!!!
What is that ingredient?
Holy Spirit powered dealings
Holy Spirit powered willingness
"Yes I come to do thy will....a BODY you have prepared for me."
"Which Body?"
The New Man.
The One prophesied.
The Body of Christ rising up in every nation in every tribe in every tongue.

Sunday 13 April 2014

Our (complete) story so far - Elaine Waterfield, mission work Chris regards as worthy of as much support as possible.

9 April 2014 at 22:29

Casualties of Malaria

Over the past two years we have used money from our own
pockets, FB friends and also from Chief Constable Matt Baggott’s charity which
shall end once he has retired from the Police Force later this year. This money
has helped us achieve so many things, the provision of Sanitary towels for
girls in both primary and secondary schools in Suba west, and on one occasion
we provided 998 girls with Always Pads with the help of football club Gor Kogano
NGO dealing with Girls Child Education. We have also documented all the
challenges girls face e.g. lack of school fees, school books, pocket money and
even mendazies that leads them to prostitute themselves for very little money
which then finds the girl pregnant, having HIV/AIDS, often leading to abortion
, early marriages leading to Girl’s child school dropout. To highlight their
challenges we have walked part way up Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, and had several
football tournaments for girls raising their profile as being just as much entitled
to education as boys.

The outcome from just empowerment of girls in school and
fundraising for school fees is that in Kihoru Primary school in 2013 there were
more girls in class 8 then boys, where normally it’s the other way round and we
fund raised for a girl to go to University. Another programme within girl’s
child was to sponsor a school girl whose baby had club feet. We supported
Mother and child for over four months taking the baby every week to firstly
Migori Hospital and later Kisi a four hour round trip to straighten the Childs
feet with positive results thanks to an American sponsor. More recently when a
16 year old class 8 primary school girl aborted a five month foetus the child
lived and we saved the life of Jeremiah and empowered the mother and the whole
family by taking the mum and child to hospital paying for the hospital bill C/O
another FB friend and also of the young girl’s mother who previously ground a
bottle of glass and drank it to try and take her life due to so many problems
including having a husband whose an alcoholic. We preached the Gospel to the
Father and the mother of the school girl and they come to Makongeni Church now
every week.

Due to the challenges of so many pregnancies and school drop
outs , we have been taking round Primary and secondary schools school the
Education box donated by SPUC ( Society
Protecting The Unborn Child ) showing various stages of the development of the
unborn foetus to show that life begins at conception not birth and to explain
that the pregnancy is God given life in his image and you aren’t aborting a
nothing but life. This has really impacted both boys and girls in the schools
as they talked about how the girls use OMO detergent, Blue washing powder,
concentrated tea leaves and Orange cordial to abort the baby or the use traditional
herbs and witchcraft. The parents are normally very harsh with the daughters
and so they create fear and the young girls are also fearful that they will be
chased from school whilst the father of the baby doesn’t want the
responsibility and often sells a chicken to pay for the back street methods to
abort the child. We have even taken the box to Migori prison and taught both
female and male prisoners about the effects of bad parenting and abortion.

During the last year we have preached to many changa
drinkers whose lives have been destroyed by the illicit alcohol and led them to the Lord and then empowered then
by buying seeds for the farm and clothes as
well supporting them as have the church of Makongeni. Such transformation
has seen a big drop in crime in Chungni village and the surrounding areas of
Malera, Kihoru, Marabiko Kokendie.............

We have a Braille Library thanks to Torch for the Blind and
there’s also large print and Cassettes...that have stayed in our office which
we have said are to be lent out to those who are visually impaired in the community.
We have also given a number of the literature away to various disabled groups and the Minister of
Education Social Services and Gender....

Our church Makongeni started under a tree and then moved to
a small mud hut but when I arrived God told me to build a church and when we
put the posts in we were exactly 100 by 50 and people didn’t believe me but I
knew God would do it so me and Georges Mum Margaret and Cyprian Georges brother
knocked the church down the mud hut and so they had to move from Egypt and now
to Canaan. In two years we have built the brick work and now we are having the
roof, we have trees thanks to a another FB friend and all we have to do is cut
them and get 200 iron sheets for the roof and then windows and doors....we have
been to the mountain so many times to pray and seek the face of God and he has
always answered in more ways than you can ever imagine..
Elaine Waterfield

The first year here in Chungni we built a clinic and a
labour ward thanks to so many people from FB and Dr Skehan from Leicester Groby
Road Hospital.. And a Face book friend paid for a job lot of medicine it really
helped our community. Before we had the clinic so and many people died of malaria
and typhoid and child related diseases because they couldn’t go to hospital because
of lack of money they had no money to travel 25km. Our clinic has prevented so
many children dying and also adults. When I first arrived a young man was
stabbed in the leg by a bull horn as he looked after them we only had cello tape
to stick the cotton wool pad to the leg but FB friends enabled people to have
proper treatment... later on after prayer we had a labour couch bought us by a
sponsor and a drip stand and a screen so God answered our prayers we had been
praying for over a year.

After the first six months whilst I was away a very close friend
of mine David Ochieng died of HIV Aids and left four children he was a cousin of
George and so for the past few years they have been supported by FB friends as
the two eldest children are very bright and are both first and second in their
years.

We have helped so many children with schools fees and once
we supported a man with a coffin for his daughter as he had no money to buy one.
Recently Justice a drunkard aged 36 who came to Lord was fed up working in the
gold mine and so we sponsored him to go back to secondary school and he is
doing very well.

One of my favourite Ministries is prison and we have been
going to Migori Prison for two years more or less just a couple of times of
year as it costs £70 by the time you pay for the transport, food as for Africans
its a must, things for the prisoners like soap and snacks plus sanitary towels etc and petrol, but of
late I have become friends with the Chaplin Pastor Peter Ayuka and he is a very
special man as he and his wife look after the women prisoners children why they
are serving their sentence and lets churches visit prisoners on a Sunday, When
we have money we take ex Changa men to give their testimonies to not only empower the prisoners but these new Christian
like Challis who served many years in Migori prison as he was a murderer and lived
like an animal I found him, caned on the road and we took him to a cafe led him
to the Lord gave him clothes and then seeds, he is now a member or Makongeni
Church and a father, husband and a great farmer. Over the past few months
thanks to my host George who has been free to let me visit the prison whilst Pastor Peter the prison chaplain and missionary
has encouraged me to visit the women prisoners
and teach them. On women’s day myself and ex chang’a brewer who served time in Kisi
prison helped the women to plant trees in the Migori prison ground to remember
aborted babies, still birth and miscarried foetus its was a wonderful time and
then we preached and sang afterwards to empower the women who are normally victims
of poverty who have no alternative than brew changa and sell drugs. Thanks to
FB friends we have bought trees and now they are building a baptismal pool for
the first baptism in the prison with 57 men and women on April 20th.
On the 18th I will be going with Evelyn and George to wash the feet
of the women prisoners. Other times we have taken Rev Michael Cameron from UK /
Nigeria and he spoke about the prodigal son and hugged
many of the men. I had the privilege of being able to see an English man in the
prison awaiting trial really wonderful opportunities..I am hoping to get a
Prison permit so I can visit other prisons in Kenya...

We have been to many burials as a church and preached the
Gospel and so many are young people last year at least four young men committed
suicide in school fee related incidents, last week two young children from our
church died of malaria which was very painful for me and as a church one being
named after me Elaine Waterfield aged 2 and the pastors daughter.

The most
disturbing was when baby Paul died he was born with HV/AIDS and was so malnourished
FB sent me money to give him milk and clothes, thankfully his dad once a change
drinker but now born again managed to get an NGO to help with special food for
the baby. The last time i saw him he looked like a normal baby but he was dead
the disease totally destroyed him. His Mum Maureen only 21 died of the disease
and so John and Agnes had such a terrible year their son zone aged 6 burned his
face severely on a fire, Maureen and baby Paul died and the father had to sell
his land to pay for another child’s hospital bill due to malaria but John
experienced the grace and love of God in provision.

Our other projects are finishing the well for fresh water, a
school for the blind and a rehab, and we really need a vehicle as we have out
grown our motor bike.

Where we have reached as an Organisation is that unless we
receive sponsorship from a Donor or from a charity or a Church we cannot
progress with the vision that God has given us. We have struggled with a few
pounds and a couple of hundred but to make any real progress we need a few
thousand pounds to
GOALS
1.
Revamp the ex alcoholics group so that they can
be disciple and also provided with a small amount of money to start their own business.
Kennedy once called Neto when he used to be a fisherman down the lake, has been
dry for nearly a year and is now the building director and he has just started
to work as a barber for someone else but if he had £50 he could start his own
business and do well... each member who used to be once an ex alcoholic needs
money to start a small business and encouraged and helped as they went along.
We did help Challis at first but money dried up and so we had to stop helping him
and of late he has stopped coming to church.

2.
We want to have a seminar at the local school
for parents and students, Minister of Education, local Chief, Prison Chaplain
and minister of health and social services to discuss and address the problems
of early pregnancy and abortion, empowering parents, offering counselling and
having a procedure with various integrated services as to what happens when a
girl is pregnant and the way forward for their continued education. Not
forgetting the consequences of parents encouraging abortion and the murder of a
foetus. We need a group like SPUC (Society Protecting the unborn Child) to
provide us as a Charitable Organisation, with money for the seminar as what we
do comes from our own pocket limiting what’s really needed.



3.We need donors to fund the
building a school for the blind and trainings along with an orphanage So many
children here are disabled and their parents hide them away thinking they are a
curse. The nearest blind school is a four hour bus ride away near Kisumu by
Lake Victoria. We need this school and training to enable the children to learn
how to read and write Braille and therefore the wonderful Braille literature will
then be used rather than gather dust. We also need to train teachers and
volunteers how to read and write with Braille.

4. We are looking to build a
rehab for we have a really high number of substance users who need to stop
drinking dealing with their addictions using HTB 12 step programme, transformed
meetings and Biblical teaching prayer and praise. Then they need to be trained
in carpentry, tailoring, agriculture and stone masonry and work for their rehabilitation
there isn’t a rehab with in Suna location

5. We need donors to provide
school fees for the most vulnerable school girls with school fees and sanitary towels
the sustainability is impossible with just a few pounds

6. We are looking to continue
with prison ministry and the Chaplain is looking for funding to provide school
fees for the children he looks after belonging to the women prisoners plus food
and clothes, and Peters heart is very much for a chapel for the prisoners as
they only have provision of the sleeping rooms to hold services at the minute..The
women also need a DVD and television to play Christian DVDs and music.

7. We desperately need a Vehicle
we have out grown the pikki pikki motor bike and it will be so useful where we
live in the rural.

8. The church needs to be
finished and we need Bibles in the Luo and Swahili, instruments and chairs, a lectern
and so many things you need in a church.

9.We need more medicine as we have
little stock left and lots of things that we haven’t remembered

But without
donors and money we are simply at a standstill because we have done all the
research and written reports and visited schools, various groups, but now we
need to empower the people and provide the sanitary towels, the school fees,
the small loans for businesses and items to take to the prison like detol soap
and mats for 400 prisoners to sit on, we need money for the transport and the building
and the trainings. At the moment we are struggling to keep going and work has
to stop because we are just giving empty promises we gave over two years ago.. People
are dying of HIV/AIDS and through ignorance; people are starving and are not
being educated....we also need to feed ourselves and put clothes on out back but

We have a heart for the people..and what we do
comes from a vision God gave George ten years ago and me two and a half years
ago he also told us to be two disciples to feed his sheep and he called me to
love people not to like them look over what you see in the natural and see with
Jesus eyes in the spiritual... what we do is for the kingdom and taking up our
cross was never going to easy its about endurance and obedience to the King of
kings alive and not dead.

WHAT WE NEED IS YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT DONARS SPONSERS AND PEOPLE TO COME TO CHUNGNI SUNA MIGORI TO SEEE FOR
THEMSELVES WHAT GOD IS DOING IN THIS REMOTE AREA AND WE STILL NEED TO PREACH
THE GOSPEL OF THE GOOD NEWS THAT JESUS IS ALIVE AND NOT DEAD AND THAT THROUGH
HIM WE CAN BE SAVED, RESTORED HEALED AND TRANSFORMED

God bless
Elaine and George and all at REDIM thank you and appreciate all your support
thus far.......

Get on Facebook and access Elaine's profile to to talk with her and discuss ways of donating or publicising:
https://www.facebook.com/elainesjargon

A BIG THANKYOU FROM THIS BLOG IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST

Saturday 12 April 2014

Gracebook,Intimacy and the Disobedient Prophet of 1 Kings 13

How the strange, almost kafkaesque story of 2 prophets and a king in 1 Kings 13 sheds a bit of light on the strange world of Walking In The Light. 

1 John 1:5-7

English Standard Version (ESV)

Walking in the Light

This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.


Facebook has been known by many of my friends in the last few years as Gracebook. Social media has rightfully been scorned for some terrible excesses, actually in a similar way to the excitement that preceded it in Friends Reunited.
Both have been  the cause of marital breakdowns and many forms of cheap relating, also threatening and abusive namecalling, not to mention pedophilia grooming.
2008 was quite a positive wake-up call though. Some of us started to realise what an online vehicle for good we have at our fingertips.
For a start, what seemed like  the beginning of an international Christian revival beginning in Lakeland , Florida, already had God TV able to beam it across the world, together with this new phenomena of social media. Around this time I began gingerly discussing Florida with others on blogs, centered around Dan Bowen's blog :Life on Wings. This was my first real outlet to begin sharing what I was seeing in God. With encouragement from others I began this blog in August 2008.
Soon after, and quite naturally, many Christian men as well as women began sharing their viewpoints and revelation via Facebook, at which point something died in the rather hermetically sealed world of Blogland...mostly Blogger and WordPress...and a lot of us now receive virtually no blog comments, but quite often people comment direct in Facebook. I am not currently on Twitter and have been taking a break from Facebook.
Between 12 to 30 of us, with many comings and goings, spent all but 2 years in a single private Facebook Thread.....
Between 12 to 30 of us, with many comings and goings, spent all but 2 years in a single private Facebook Thread that was as close to online church as may be possible but for conferencing face to face. And with the advent of 4G mobiles this may soon be possible.



Look at the following passage with these 2 keys.


The actual Spoken Word of God










Normal Human interaction











1 Kings 13

Living Bible (TLB) as continuous prose.
SCENE ONE

As Jeroboam approached the altar to burn incense to the golden calf idol, a prophet of the Lord from Judah walked up to him. 

 Then, at the Lord’s command, the prophet shouted, “O altar, the Lord says that a child named Josiah shall be born into the family line of David, and he shall sacrifice upon you the priests from the shrines on the hills who come here to burn incense; and men’s bones shall be burned upon you.”
 Then he gave this proof that his message was from the Lord: “This altar will split apart, and the ashes on it will spill to the ground.”
 The king was very angry with the prophet for saying this. He shouted to his guards, “Arrest that man!” and shook his fist at him. Instantly the king’s arm became paralyzed in that position; he couldn’t pull it back again!  At the same moment a wide crack appeared in the altar and the ashes poured out, just as the prophet had said would happen. For this was the prophet’s proof that God had been speaking through him.
 “Oh, please, please,” the king cried out to the prophet, “beg the Lord your God to restore my arm again.”
So he prayed to the Lord, and the king’s arm became normal again.
 Then the king said to the prophet, “Come to the palace with me and rest awhile and have some food; and I’ll give you a reward because you healed my arm.”
 But the prophet said to the king, “Even if you gave me half your palace, I wouldn’t go into it; nor would I eat or drink even water in this place! 


 For the Lord has given me strict orders not to eat anything or drink any water while I’m here, and not to return to Judah by the road I came on.”
 So he went back another way.

SCENE TWO

As it happened, there was an old prophet
living in Bethel, and his sons went home and told him what the prophet from Judah had done and what he had said to the king.
 “Which way did he go?” the old prophet asked. So they told him.
 “Quick, saddle the donkey,” the old man said. And when they had saddled the donkey for him,  he rode after the prophet and found him sitting under an oak tree.
“Are you the prophet who came from Judah?” he asked him.
“Yes,” he replied, “I am.”

 Then the old man said to the prophet, “Come home with me and eat.”



 “No,” he replied, “I can’t; for I am not allowed to eat anything or to drink any water at Bethel. The Lord strictly warned me against it; and he also told me not to return home by the same road I came on.”
 But the old man said, “I am a prophet too, just as you are; and an angel gave me a message from the Lord. I am to take you home with me and give you food and water.”
But the old man was lying to him.  

So they went back together, and the prophet ate some food and drank some water at the old man’s home.

Then, suddenly, while they were sitting at the table, a message from the Lord came to the old man,  and he shouted at the prophet from Judah, “The Lord says that because you have been disobedient to his clear command and have come here, and have eaten and drunk water in the place he told you not to, therefore your body shall not be buried in the grave of your fathers.”
 After finishing the meal, the old man saddled the prophet’s donkey,  and the prophet started off again. But as he was traveling along,
 a lion came out and killed him. His body lay there on the road, with the donkey and the lion standing beside it. Those who came by and saw the body lying in the road and the lion standing quietly beside it, reported it in Bethel where the old prophet lived.
 When he heard what had happened he exclaimed, “It is the prophet who disobeyed the Lord’s command; the Lord fulfilled his warning by causing the lion to kill him.”
 Then he said to his sons, “Saddle my donkey!” And they did.


He found the prophet’s body lying in the road; and the donkey and lion were still standing there beside it, for the lion had not eaten the body nor attacked the donkey. 

 So the prophet laid the body upon the donkey and took it back to the city to mourn over it and bury it.
 He laid the body in his own grave, exclaiming, “Alas, my brother!
 Afterwards he said to his sons, “When I die, bury me in the grave where the prophet is buried. Lay my bones beside his bones.  For the Lord told him to shout against the altar in Bethel, and his curse against the shrines in the cities of Samaria shall surely be fulfilled.”
 Despite the prophet’s warning, Jeroboam did not turn away from his evil ways; instead, he made more priests than ever from the common people, to offer sacrifices to idols in the shrines on the hills. Anyone who wanted to could be a priest.  This was a great sin and resulted in the destruction of Jeroboam’s kingdom and the death of all of his family.




Quite a story eh? Is it just me, or are there others who find this quite an enigmatic tale worthy of Franz Kafka? Except I think this is history and not fiction.

Covenant Relationships
Covenant relating or walking in the Light is a whole different dynamic.
The apostles had this dynamic. It is nearly nowhere to be seen in our current churches, and I do not actually see it on Facebook where Christians relate.

People are quick to quote Ecclesiastes 4:12 Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.
Few people...in fact let's make that just me, talk about Genesis 15 and the splitting open of the carcasses, the darkness, and the supernatural flaming torch passing between them.

In May 1976 we heard a historic message preached apostolically and prophetically by Ern Baxter in Capel Bible Week. The reason I googled and found Dan Bowen's blog was because in 2008 I was looking for someone who had the first part of Ern's message. Somewhere we had mislaid this, although I have transferred the second part to mp3. The message was on Covenant Love as expressed through David and Jonathan's relationship, but used as a template for the kind of relating in the Body of Christ, and also between married couples.

Now people are quick to appreciate the extra strength of humans being interwoven with Christ in their relationships, but they are less quick to take on board the covenantal implications of walking together.
This John refers to as Walking in the Light.
Back in the 1970s we could see the vision of "walking together", and this had been laid from the beginning of our walk as Jesus people
in songs such as
Father I appreciate you.....and brother sister I appreciate you....etc
and
We are being built into a Temple fit for God's own dwelling place.

The vision of discipleship came back into the church, particularly through Juan Carlos Ortiz, although the Spirit had already led a lot of us in these ways, but also in the organisation Youth With a Mission, Operation Mobilisation and even before this the Navigators.

The vision of One ness in John 17 was being expressed through Graham Pulkingham, Jimmy and Carol Owens in the musical "Come Together", and in the great London prophecy of Maurice Smith The Glorious Church reproduced in this post with others.

However, in the 70s we did not have clear our self identity.....

However, in the 70s we did not have clear our self identity. So any concept of relating could only really be upon sand.
The complete revelation of a God of Abraham, Isaac and also Jacob right down to the Peniel experience is what we all need individually in order to "get" firsthand our identity  and who our Rock is, that is Jesus, the one fused now to our spirit, and also that we ARE spirit.
I will repeat that last bit : we are primarily spirit, but this is expressed through soul.
The whole thrust of secularism is that we are self-empowered souls...
The whole thrust of secularism is that we are self-empowered souls, and by default, the first 2 corporate expressions of Christianity still think this.
The vision of the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac only, doesn't really cut it.
This is why Psalm 24 specifically quotes Jacob.

Who may ascend into the hill of the Lord?
And who may stand in His holy place?
He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
Who has not lifted up his soul [b]to falsehood
And has not sworn deceitfully.
He shall receive a blessing from the Lord
And [c]righteousness from the God of his salvation.
[d]This is the generation of those who seek Him,
Who seek Your face—even Jacob. 


The vision of Jacob.... that is the summation of the vision of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob ....and we get this by "seeking the Lord"...this is the revelation that clinches us as fully "getting " our self-identities.

As with all God "things", they are hidden in openness.
They are hidden in transparency.

This is the wisdom of God. He makes no secrecy of the fact that the whole of Christian life is summed up in the phrase : Christ in you the hope of glory.
Our problem, my problem, your problem, is that that phrase means absolutely nothing to your leftbrain, your conscious thinking.

The only way you are going to get it, is to seek God....for God. Then, everything begins to click...like tumbler locks on a safe door...but internally.


The only way you are going to get it, is to seek God....for God


So.....back to the heading scripture!

This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

There is simply nowhere we can hide.
Every christian uses social media because intimacy,closeness,sharing is desirable. The spin-off,the other side of the coin is that we cannot hide. We cannot retreat when someone touches us where we are still hiding, where we still sport figleaves.

This is the rather awkward place the Body of Christ now finds itself. Do you see the relevance of the story of the two prophets ? We have now been made a nation of prophets priests and kings. Jeremiah 31 declares the new covenant ; that we shall all know Him from the least to the greatest. So like the two prophets,until we are settled in our new identity we are going to be announcing that we have heard from angels, and that we really think you should be staying for tea. But then,just as in touch with the Throne as you are, the Spirit then blurts through us the corrective Word.  In the story the One charged with the nationally impacting message is the one who dies. But Both prophets were disobedient.
We can't just fall out any more. An explanation will be supplied whether we like or not. Our stories become very public about the time we claim to be....or perhaps we don't claim anything we just seek to bring the Word of the Lord to the Body of Christ.
In the story of the prophets we would be totally confused but for the Spirit clarification of the writer of 1 Samuel. We are told that when the second prophet claimed more up to date info...He lied.

We can't just fall out any more. An explanation will be supplied whether we like or not.

This is walking in the Light. This is fellowshipping.
Daniel Yordy has written a very key book entitled Eyes of Fire. In it he has done the work of a prophet and described the work God has already finished in the heavens in bringing forth a Bride without spot or wrinkle....but stating that this same Bride is becoming manifest on earth. And this same Bride looks out from her position as seated upon the throne tucked in the side of Jesus Christ. Like her bridegroom she is of the same Lamb nature , not seeking rule over, but like Christ,continually rising from underneath....going the powerless way of the Lamb who trod Gethsemane road. The way of the mercy seat. Bringing all things together in heaven and earth through the intercession discovered by St Paul....filling out the sufferings of Christ....why....because they are indeed Christ's sufferings but this time exercised through His multimembered Body.

So why should Daniel separate himself and indeed not allow us to finish posting the rest of the book Eyes of Fire ? I think this is because of something R.Edward Miller and Jorge Pradas warned our Emsworth congregation about. Several times Daniel writes about experiencing the place of the Mercy Seat, of looking out from this place. Both Jorge and Ed warned of the deception that they each had to learn. We enter this most holy place,individually, in the experience of the loss of all things,of the altar of incense.....but the new place is not individual. We return home in effect to that which is from the beginning. We awaken to the perfect image of corporate man neatly tucked up in perfect union with God and fellow man. All walls of hostility are broken down.
For this to be so....this image of the New Man is Not our image scaled up. It is not even our resurrected image scaled up to the nth degree. No,this is the completeness,the fullness, of each part fully working,fully in resurrection but containing the fullness of the whole. All 12 tribes. All the personalities of the 12 apostles. All the fullness of the 12 gates or 12 kingdom portal experiences that are couched within the rebuilt Jerusalem Gates described in Nehemiah.

Paul was used to attack the issue of disunity. He did it in two or three passages. Corinthians in two places and probably him writing in Hebrews 6. It could also be argued that by expounding fully upon the Grace of God in its outworkings in Romans individually,in Ephesians as church....He was doing the same namely making the link with immaturity and fracture,and disunity.

I could not address you as mature because each follows only one or two teachers. Do you not know that all are yours. The giveaway he writes about in 1 Corinthians 12 is that everyone is saying Because you are not a (fill in the blank) I have no need of you.Lastly in Hebrews chapter 6 brings up the sticky issue of continually laying instructions about baptisms/ water....Baptism in the Holy Ghost....other. initial teachings....today we would call this evangelical and charismatic level believing.....basically you cannot hope to experience the full manifestation of the corporate Christ at this level of believing. You may experience something of the Unity of the Spirit...but no....you are along way from the Unity of the faith.

The story of the two prophets show us that I don't have to be like you. I mustn't try to make you stop for tea with me.....or make you behave like me. Because we both walk in the Light....All our wrongdoing is going to show up anyway. There is no hiding for either of us. Each of us have to do precisely that which Christ is doing by us.

The story of the two prophets shows up this rather odd pairing that exists in the Body.....1. On the One hand the lovers,the people people.....who largely exist to bless others with hospitality....and 2. Those that find themselves quite naturally saddled/consumed with the Word of the Lord.  Teatimes are great....but not while Words to do with nation's destinies are being given. There is a serious edge to our relating in the Body of Christ. We have come to the City of the Living God. Of Ananias and Saphirra in Acts.
Last week a prophet in the UK died.
Three years ago this youngish man of God had become discouraged. My friend in northern England related the tale a few days ago. This friend of his just suddenly went right  away from God. An apostolic figure felt God warn him that his wife would not hang around forever,she would also get discouraged and leave him. Last year this happened. Chastened by this Word coming true,the prophet began to relate with them all again, also bringing in a brand new male friend with him,who became a committed Christian.
After many weeks of strong and direct words from Christ through this apostolic gift, the prophet was challenged to release all bad debts on his property management. It was one weight he wished to cling to. A few weeks later he was dead from a brain tumour. Presumably God knew the money worries were too great a risk to his health.

So you see we are not playing around.

In the next post I want to cover the Gates of Jerusalem which is a more in-depth look at Nehemiah chapters 1 to 8.
In the free for all that is Facebook, people remain in immaturity because they construct for themselves their own reality and don't realise that their Jesus Christ has to join with everybody else's Jesus Christ. It is easy to do this when we dismiss the bits of the Bible we don't like....the bits of the Body we don't like....and the experiences of the Living God we don't like that are available to all in the Spirit.
I want to end this post with a key to life in the Spirit.....
I want to end this post with a key to life in the Spirit and Hebrews 4. The Tree of the knowledge of good and Evil gives us information on every subject under the sun. But it doesn't give us the Tree of Life.
What I have picked up in Michael Hardin, Brad Jersak and Daniel Yordy is a Mennonite hatred of violence.
What I pick up in many UK and US Christians is a complete acceptance of Might is Right. This was the Anglican position in both world wars and now we realise is the very spirit exploited by Kitchener, Rothschild and Freemasonry to make huge sums of money and present an even larger blood sacrifice to their Lucifer god,who demands this in his worship.

So clearly this was a wrong spirit. But I discern in both the pacifist Mennonite position and the Republican.....war against terror....actually the same tree....just different ends.

As soon as we begin rebuilding Bible passages according to our fixed Tree of Knowledge positions we have already divorced ourselves from God's Life. Which,I stress again, is a totally different Tree: the Tree of Life.

In the wisdom of God the Spirit IS USING Hardin (especially in raising the profile of Rene Girard) Jersak and Yordy to kick into touch the angry god syndrome left in the mouth by anything to do with the Nicene Council.
The "substitutionary" death of Christ whereby this angry distant god could somehow work out all His wrath by substituting His own Son.

For more clarity on this issue read Rudi Louw's collections of insights, his own, and Francois DuToit and Andre Rabe in his new book "God's Love For You".
The truth is nearly 180 degrees opposite whereby God goes to the nth degree above what we could have even imagined to demonstrate His own ever FIXED love for us.

I feel the Lord has used the Mennonite pacifist position in this way, to provoke these three authors,Hardin,Jersak,Yordy and many others I don't know, to unearth the "coming up from underneath path of the Lamb", and especially from Gethsemane to the Cross.
Or as I heard it from Mother Basilea Schlink in 1974...."Go the Way of the Lamb, for it is a way of great power."
Daniel Yordy's Chapters which describe the walk to the Cross from Gerthsemane are really powerful and clear.
Basilea's actual commission had been to paralyse Chairman Mao's planned military advance on Europe. 
But through Schlink I was watching a model son of God in action. The context was this. A group of male and female 16-18 year olds would be invited to share in the life of the Lutheran Community at Darmstadt, whose attraction was a deeper clarity into the gospel and how it works through the battle of faith.
I was saddened upon arrival to hear that having gone specifically to hear from Basilea as much as I could, she suddenly felt called away to fast and pray. I'll explain that in a minute, but it was very noticeable on her eventual return that she had a huge anointing upon her as she gave the two messages which "Spirit-wounded" my life from then on.
Talk 1. was the above...Lamb message
Talk 2. Was similar, but "Seek the Face of the God of Jacob as at Peniel"

Basilea's actual commission had been to paralyse Chairman Mao's planned military advance on Europe. This was very real although Europe never got to hear about it. You can read passages in Jung Chang's book "Mao".
Basilea went into the throne of God and went into battle directly against the powers driving Mao forward in his expansionism. The very next thing anyone in the world knew was the following year when Kissinger, Nixon and Mao were all having tea together, in which I think plans were deferred for the end of the century. In many ways what wasn't accomplished militarily has been accomplished through financial clout. But that is another subject.

Both 1.when I was baptised in the Spirit and fire, and went through a definite two stage process on that day in the upper room in 1972, and also 2.the spirit I observed upon Basilea has absolutely nothing to do with modern Mennonite pacifism. There's a godly violence in the Throne room. Works of Justice as well as mercy.

Michael Hardin attempts to fashion Jesus after his Mennonite belief system in his reworking of Jesus in the Temple.(The Jesus-Driven Life) The Bible passages talk about Jesus DRIVING OUT the moneychangers with whips. Whether threats or actual physical hurts, the main thing is this was Holy Spirit as physical force.

Jesus spoke strongly to Peter. "Get thee behind me Satan..." addressing the spirit coming from his mouth. He groaned deeply as he pulled Lazarus back to life, with His "come forth." He expressed the strongest annoyance at the disciples after the Transfiguration...and probably because of the contrast...when they couldn't drive out the epileptic demon.."How long do I have to put up with this generation of unbelief?"

The letters of the New Testament also contain very strong and humbling corrections, the strongest of which came from Paul against Peter.

"Violent men take the Kingdom by force."

The Mennonite position is nowadays to pray always
to always speak softly
to let things be....que sera sera !!!

It's not that we shouldn't be praying. But some of us have done 40 years dying to flesh anger. We are expecting the anger that comes forth through us to be Christ....and to bring peace, even if not instantly.
This poofy, mamby pamby religious form of Christianity that strokes pet demons
Ours is the Christ push and shove of having lived a decade or more in Christian community and watched how through some kind of Spirit peristalsis movement, the Body of Christ squeezes all that is not part of the New creation to the surface to be judged, exorcised, kicked out, so that people experience true deliverance.

This poofy, mamby pamby religious form of Christianity that strokes pet demons and allows them continued house room is not the experience that comes from the baptism of the Spirit and fire.

I have had a personal run in with Michael Hardin (and not just Daniel Yordy).
Imagine two sharpshooters sidling into town and eyeing each other.
I openly attacked his mennonite pacifism, but he was judging me on my knowledge of theology. So he was a theological sharpshooter.
There are occasional references to study in the new testament, but there are far more references to Jesus almost righting off anyone who has come the way of study. So actually if any judgments are to be made regarding leftbrain skills, the Bible is far more a book about "working out your salvation with fear and trembling." About waiting on God's voice. About following the Spirit for these are the sons of God. This , in Michael Hardin's world, and even Brian McClaren and certainly Mark Driscoll, as well as ofcourse the evangelicals John Piper et al is exactly the reverse.

So for example Michael Hardin's form of attack against me was that I was gnostic.

Whereas my observation of him is that having spent ages going the leftbrain route, having begun well in the 70s Spirit Move, instead, in complete discouragement , he gives up on the Lord for a while. Well , Rich Novek has done that. But Rich doesn't treat me like dirt. He honours the fact that the Holy Spirit has largely kept Daniel Yordy and myself faithfully growing in the context of church community.

In my sharpshooting context, I am viewing how much a believer has lived out his or her Christianity in a Holy Spirit church community. In reality there have been relatively few of these. Even the ones that exist in terms of evangelism like Operation Mobilisation and Youth With a Mission have some horrible organisational "add-ins"....or "Jesus PLUS this".  Up until this point in time there are very few on earth that have had anything approaching the experience of the 12 disciples learning day in day out from Jesus. And in the measure that I have, all of us had to make Divine Telephone calls first, via what I call the Melchizedek Order, to find ourselves supernaturally placed together in such a Spirit setting especially between the years 1978-84.
But this was already something like my 4th or 5th experience of something similar since God radically blasted me out of my parent's Methodist religion via atheism in 1972.

A religious spirit sees God's anger and calls it disruption. Which is true.
A religious spirit sees God's anger and assumes it is anger after the flesh. Which it isn't.
A religious spirit condemns God's anger as provoking wrath, creating splinters and divisions. Which it isn't.
A religious spirit, as manifested in the crowd being offended by Jesus cannibalistic words in John 6 and leaving, then blames the one bringing the Word as having caused the mess, and with schadenfreude takes joy in the fact that Jesus is now left with only 12 followers or so. In other words it kills with 2 daggers.
This is what God's anger is.
It is specific.
This is what God's anger is.
It is specific.
It targets and deals with Darkness.
It openly declares itself like Jesus to be a bringer not of peace, but a sword. Why? because it is addressing that which can be shaken. That which is of the Old Order. That which is passing away.
It brings peace, because having driven out Darkness the Life of God now has an open infrastructure in which to peacefully thrive and flourish.
God's anger is definitely not PC. Politically correct means honoring the kings and pyramids of this world under Lucifer.  We honour God's order as ones in the world. We give to Caesar what is Caesar's. But we are NOT OF THIS WORLD. We are not run by the spirit that is in the sons of darkness, we live by another spirit that takes us right back to our original authenticity and uniqueness in God.

We are not of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. We are of the Tree of Life, and this is the community I have always lived among since being born again. The personnel may change, but the Spirit in which we live has never changed.